Templars overwhelming power

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

Obi you may as well have killed low level people because I see you follow lower level characters than yourself into dungeons and make them useless by bigbying them or messing them up with other spells and letting spawns kill them, which if I'm not mistaken is against server rules. Also the Templars are not overpowered because of their ammy but because of the Paladin set which almost all templars have. My own Templar Warchief of the Twin Axes Clan is a Templar yet he does not have anywhere near the abilities to kill the people who are wanted for murder half the time. Also another key thing you are missing is the fact that almost every Templar i see uses sequencer robes to good effeect i.e. Tenser's Transformation True Strike Shadow Shield to name a few. Tenser's Transformation gives the character bonuses to hit plus extra attacks per round. So when you say the Templars are overpowered you are only looking at one aspect of them, the ammy which if a templar were to fight you with unenchanted equipment and their ammy you would easily kill them. My point is that the Templar guild isnt what is overpowered it is the Paladin class that is because of the pally set and it just so happens that paladins are able to be templars.

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 17:33

Warchief wrote:

Obi you may as well have killed low level people because I see you follow lower level characters than yourself into dungeons and make them useless by bigbying them or messing them up with other spells and letting spawns kill them, which if I'm not mistaken is against server rules. Also the Templars are not overpowered because of their ammy but because of the Paladin set which almost all templars have. My own Templar Warchief of the Twin Axes Clan is a Templar yet he does not have anywhere near the abilities to kill the people who are wanted for murder half the time. Also another key thing you are missing is the fact that almost every Templar i see uses sequencer robes to good effeect i.e. Tenser's Transformation True Strike Shadow Shield to name a few. Tenser's Transformation gives the character bonuses to hit plus extra attacks per round. So when you say the Templars are overpowered you are only looking at one aspect of them, the ammy which if a templar were to fight you with unenchanted equipment and their ammy you would easily kill them. My point is that the Templar guild isnt what is overpowered it is the Paladin class that is because of the pally set and it just so happens that paladins are able to be templars.

Obi doing something like this?? I play most of the time when he's on and this is the first time i hear this?? no1 ever said something like this on shout, and when there's a case someone killing low lvls its loud. So do you mind stop blackmailing others to gain your point?? Indeed he did have evil character "Malachi" and its not against the rules to kill other players or steal.

Could you tell me in one aspect is pally set better than rusty set??
2nd thing... how did they get these legendary set items??? farming with templars no?? so than... how did they get these items if the only characters they can farm with are templars... stop protecting your only way to farm items already.
As to your templar... not my fault you went 2handed weapon and are missing a lot of AC as you don't get any from Dex or Wisdom.

Why don't you people use Crimson monks to farm items like you do with templars?? oh wait you can't because they don't get loots and its impossible with no healing pots.(healing from items takes too long)

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

First of all my templar is totally unable to farm any items. The paladin set is better than the rusty set but in order to get the set many people traded for pieces of it or went down to hell with other players to get the items. I will even include a scren shot showing you my Templar's inventory and Character sheet to prove that Warchief of the Twin Axes clan is totally unable to farm items in Hell. The only way Warchief ever goes to hell is when he is going there with other players. If you need a better screen shot to determine axactly what items i have then I will even provide that upon request. If the screen shot I attemped to put in does not work then someone PM information on how to upload a screenshot on a PC.

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 18:02

Warchief wrote:

First of all my templar is totally unable to farm any items. The paladin set is better than the rusty set but in order to get the set many people traded for pieces of it or went down to hell with other players to get the items. I will even include a scren shot showing you my Templar's inventory and Character sheet to prove that Warchief of the Twin Axes clan is totally unable to farm items in Hell. The only way Warchief ever goes to hell is when he is going there with other players. If you need a better screen shot to determine axactly what items i have then I will even provide that upon request. If the screen shot I attemped to put in does not work then someone PM information on how to upload a screenshot on a PC.

I know your templar and you have to remember you have went with 2handed weapon.... therefore your ac totally drops... and that's the main issue in your case... You're the only templar with 2handed weapon/dual wield. Everyone else is 1handed weapon + shield.
Now back to farming... give me character names that farm hell NOT USING TEMPLARS Sir Hamster/Fallen Angel/Demon/Dziki/Dziki, Friend of the Templar(remake of blackguard)/account: JoshandJenniferforever(he hasn't logged in a long time)/Knoxal/Zog/Obi. The only ones i ever saw farming hell. Rest of the players using templars to farm hell because they don't know how to play smart to survive there and protecting their only way to farm items. So you want to go with easy farming way.

Nuli · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 19:59

Sorry to lump ya in there Obi Wan, my bad. I can say I've never personally seen you do anything described by warchief. I do see this pointless post still goes on and on though.

Nuli

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

Just so you know I build Twin Axes to also use battleaxes and handaxes so I would get no penalty for using a shield. When i equip a shield my ac only goes up to 59(with drow shield) so ac doesnt really count for much if you cant generate an ac higher than 70. So just cause im not using a shield doesnt mean my character sucks. You will find that when i go down to hell with other people I do a hell of lot of damage to the monsters, i just cant tank worth a damn. You are also agruing against yourself there a bit because if there are so many other non templars farming hell then why is there even an issue? Why are people not complaining about your non templars being overpowered enough to farm hell. Those people using Templars are people who play templars for the morale reason behind them (Gramma, DarkSky, Holy, and myself). Also there are other Templars(Big D, House Eketta) that go down to hell for the challenge and to try and kill the boss(which you kinda need the items in hell to actually kill). So when you see these people soloing hell you will often see them get killed before they reach Vile King or at Vile King and yet you name people who have actually soloed hell all the way who are not templars. So why is this discussion around when it appears that it is the non-templars who are overpowered enough to solo hell. And as for my words against Obi it is because he has done that to my monk who has never done anything to him.

werehound · Posts: 109 Join date: 2008-12-24

Nuli · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 20:09

werehound wrote:

I'm used to people lieing to try to put themselves in better standing with the public. It's politics for you. After I read Warcheif's posts I could not stop laughing for over 5 minutes. He's TOTALLY clueless. Of ALL of the points brought up, he managed to only catch the amulet....

Hilarious!

Wow, I see your post is just as hilarious as Warchiefs. Politics? Didn't know I was running for president. Vote for Nuli!

Seriously though, vote for me!

Nuli

werehound · Posts: 109 Join date: 2008-12-24

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

The only advantage a tempalr gets is the amulet. That is the only item a templar recieves when joining/advancing in the guild. The only other item that appears to be Templar only is the pally set because only pallys and campions of Torm can use it and most Templars have pally in them. Other than that a Templar is the same as any other character on the server.

werehound · Posts: 109 Join date: 2008-12-24

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

That may be true but any other class can go in for the mere price of one emerald. So every other class has little penalty going in as well.

werehound · Posts: 109 Join date: 2008-12-24

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 20:34

werehound wrote:

Warchief wrote:

Just so you know I build Twin Axes to also use battleaxes and handaxes so I would get no penalty for using a shield. When i equip a shield my ac only goes up to 59(with drow shield) so ac doesnt really count for much if you cant generate an ac higher than 70. So just cause im not using a shield doesnt mean my character sucks. You will find that when i go down to hell with other people I do a hell of lot of damage to the monsters, i just cant tank worth a damn. You are also agruing against yourself there a bit because if there are so many other non templars farming hell then why is there even an issue? Why are people not complaining about your non templars being overpowered enough to farm hell. Those people using Templars are people who play templars for the morale reason behind them (Gramma, DarkSky, Holy, and myself). Also there are other Templars(Big D, House Eketta) that go down to hell for the challenge and to try and kill the boss(which you kinda need the items in hell to actually kill). So when you see these people soloing hell you will often see them get killed before they reach Vile King or at Vile King and yet you name people who have actually soloed hell all the way who are not templars. So why is this discussion around when it appears that it is the non-templars who are overpowered enough to solo hell. And as for my words against Obi it is because he has done that to my monk who has never done anything to him.

First, more than one weapon focus or specialization is worthless, and it's no wonder you die.

Second,

In terms of Non templars farming hell there... that was 4 people, just different characters named. And lately, Dziki, GPharaoh and I have proven people, for the most part, do NOT play templars for any morale reasons. Hell, I even made a level 11 and started killing people/stealing loot and the templars refused to administer justice to me (even iwht my nifty 13 million GP fine for theivery at level 11) because I was "Not worth their time..." because: "... we don't get anything for doing it...".

yeah, dziki was on killing streak today and yesterday and all the templars didn't bother to even go after him, when we reminded them of their job they just relogged on a NON Templar character saying they are not gonna play our games.
Today they all were calling dziki looser and using shout to make him feel bad.... thats all they did... Templars just ignored their duties because the templars they made are to easily solo farm items. There's only one templar that plays like he should and that is Perago The Templar.

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Templars overwhelming power Mon Feb 09 2009, 20:38

Warchief wrote:

That may be true but any other class can go in for the mere price of one emerald. So every other class has little penalty going in as well.

how hard is it to find that emerald and how hard is it to get 25k xp back??
templars also get timestop immunity

About soloing hell... First of all these are all the character names that did farming in hell... these are not account names. Also none of them solos hell. Are unable to solo hell like templars could. All of these names have beaten Vile King Do to the help of each others.