El gabardine repeatedly killed me using Element Crystals, Spawning monsters, running them to me, and logging.

He'd Cast level 9 bigby on me, spawn mosnters and kill me.

When people would Hand him, or disable him, to try to tlak to him, he'd relog, get his spells back, and do the same stuff.

Dark reported to me that relogging doesn't restore spells? Is relogging restoring spells now?

As for harassment, I don't know why players have to resort to that sort of crap. The server rules are abundantly clear. He must have been having a very bad day, because he's a long term player in good standing. Are you willing to give him a break this time?

Spawn killing (spawning monsters and drawing them to other players) is definitely not in the spirit of polite game play. Same thing with using spells to immobilize other players when they are in combat with monsters.

Using crystals in PvP is OK. So is using every other item/ability the game allows, but there's a limit to even that. If you keep attacking a player who clearly isn't in your league (not saying that was the case here) to screw up their play, then that's going too far.

Some things just can't be spelled out in black and white, hence our ever evolving and expanding law. I wish I could write code to make people behave within the restraints of a civil society, but it would take all my time and probably wouldn't be possible. That's one of the reasons the Knight Templar guild was eliminated, because I kept writing and rewriting code to try to put restrictions on the module's law enforcers.

Let me know if anyone continues to have problems with other players.

Yesterday night I log on affter long time and you know what i see?? people breaking the rules like they want.
Eddie Van Arrow running through dragon wastes not killing pirates nor dragons.
Hidding behind a rock so Rainbow can't get to him and is standing still. Therefore he's easy target to pick on with the arrows.
Using elemental crystals on other players when he can't take care of them himself.(he is/was the first one to attack other players)
Logging off if he's almost dead after challenging other players.

With elemental crystals its the same thing when i was using boom stick on v nasty. so you're not going to tell me its ok to do so because you changed boom sticks so it doesnt work on the players anymore. Crystals are even more dangerous than a boom stick.(when used on the player it makes you loose xp and leave a loot with half your gold)

Boom sticks were originally meant to be like Ash's boom stick--used to destroy undead and evil planar creatures (demons and whatnot). There was some development involved, in that I made them effective against evil creature and toyed with the amount of damage until I felt I had the right setup. However, they are specifically designed to do maximum damage against undead. I suppose they should be written to do extreme damage against pale masters, too, since this module treats pale masters as undead. I consider it an error that boom sticks were ever effective to any great extent against fellow players. Consider where the concept for "boom stick" came from. They weren't supposed to be a PvP weapon.

None of this has anything to do with the crystals. The crystals act pretty much as they were intended from the start. The only changes there were damage adjustments.

So what's the big deal here? Why are some players torqued off?

that's because boom sticks do so much damage it can kill players in one go making them loose xp and leave a loot. I'll also add that it's aoe effect witch means you can kill a group of players and than rob them off of their loots or even pp if they stay dead. Now you just tell me if it is fair. People with best gear from d16 using sticks to do that because even the best items does not help them fight players that doesn't have these items.

Lets make a situation where a group of 3 players play together in a dungeon when a naughty, sneaky thief comes in and uses one crystal to kill them all off, make them loose exp, steal their loot and even pp their dead body. (if they haven't respawned yet.)NOTE: kills from elemental sticks are considered monster kills. it doesnt make a thrower murderer if he/she kills someone with a stick

I looked at the coding for the crystals. Nothing in the module should be a foolproof way of defeating other players, so I lowered the damage substantially against players. It's unchanged versus creatures. I still need to find out why someone who murders someone with one of the crystals doesn't get the blame.

I think script to stop players from logging in a fight would stop this logging to save form dieing. Maybe a call check to see if they are in combat added to exit script . If in a fight and they log it treats as a instant death. Costing 1\2 gp and 5,000 xp . players would think again before doing it as much. Just an idea please consider it and adjust fines to show how you dislike it .

Thank you sarah your right I have never seen el do that to a player in all my years here .

Oh and wow doesnt this sound like the same crying he did when dark stoped him from pp ing players empty !

Same here Gomez, El has always been a great player, keeps to self a lot and helps anyone that needs it. I have NEVER seen him act this way before.

Good idea Gomez, I think this would stop alot of. . . well what they call death loggers from logging off in combat.

Oh and I went in d3 to test the relogging to restore spells and used all combat spells in combat, logged off and back and spells was restored.

I have a good idea lets just get rid of everything in the server and run around in our panties and kill each other . No more spells just hand to hand , then maybe we could make everyone happy and that way it would be fair.

might die from the tears!

The only players that does follow the rules and doesn't show off to be good is Pugz, Werehound The rest of the players are corrupted in one or another way and they want to be seen as a good players so they do what they do on the outside.

Sorry but I have to take exception to your comment . I try very hard to be a good player and I'm not the only one .I kill all my spawns or die trying . So if you want to name names then try to get them all not just your friends. I know I'm not a great player never will be I can't build a toon worth a hoot ,but that's ok for me . I do play by the rules just like alot of other folks do . I know you have a problem with some of the other players but that doesn't make you rite all time time just like thier not rite all the time if we all just try to do our best we would have a great server . A little tolerance won't hurt anyone we all have our moods. You killed me on the old server, so ,I was there you were mad big whoopie I sure don't hate you for it, that would be stupid and childish. I had hoped with the new server it would be a new begining . Guess I was wrong same ole same ole rite.

well gpharo for 1 you werent thair so get bent !
2he attacked me while i was in a fight with his hand
3 kept coming back in to attack me
if you would actually take time to play in server you would see others rp and play game with out all the constant drama and whining !

Me and meng rped for weeks not one time did i cry like you about all the crystal death i got ! or go on forum to whine about any of it so grow up and just game ! dont come in same D as me and attack me i wont kill you i thought it was easy to understand server rules !!!!!!!!!!!!