Excalibur=LongSword

harmjustice · Posts: 56 Join date: 2009-04-18 Location: Earth

Make the weapon only usable by cot/Chapian of Torm...
Since they were excluded from The guilds...

+15 extra divine wraith ability per day
onhit 25/as to not over power the Sword of the Spirit wich is tha word of God
+15 on spot skill
Improved evasion
Regenerate +20
Immune to Criticle
Damage Type up to DM...
That is my suggestion
God bless you all, T

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Excalibur=LongSword Wed Apr 22 2009, 20:46

you must be kidding me....

you want imp evasion and critical immunity?

Zog2 · Posts: 68 Join date: 2008-09-08 Age: 44 Location: Vic, Oz

Heh
Even without imp.Evasion I'd certainly be making a Pally15/monk9-10/CoT15-16 who could make good use of a weapon like that

Pally set gives all immunities except crit ... which comes from the sword.
Monk for imp evasion & wisdom bonus to AC (& cleave & a couple of other handy things).
Great saves & feats from CoT

pugz · Posts: 94 Join date: 2008-09-12 Age: 24 Location: MICHIGAN

dont monks lose there ac bonus if they wear full plate (pally set) so ud be pretty much taking monk lvls for imp evasion. and if u want imp evasion wear a friggin kobald cloke.....i personally think its very odd that cot class was excluded from the knights..... sarah will u plz explain y u did that? im sure u have a reason. but i do like the idea of the sword tony - the imp evasion

Zog2 · Posts: 68 Join date: 2008-09-08 Age: 44 Location: Vic, Oz

If monks wear more than robes they lose their speed, special attacks for unarmed/kama and monk AC (the +1 per 5 levels).
They keep their wisdom modifier on AC
They also get Tumble as a class skill

Any melee weapon with crit immune would allow this build ... which would have the same AB as a well built Templar, with about 10 higher AC (from wisdom bonus & tumble)

GPharaoh · Subject: Re: Excalibur=LongSword Thu Apr 23 2009, 02:39

Zog2 wrote:

If monks wear more than robes they lose their speed, special attacks for unarmed/kama and monk AC (the +1 per 5 levels).
They keep their wisdom modifier on AC
They also get Tumble as a class skill

Any melee weapon with crit immune would allow this build ... which would have the same AB as a well built Templar, with about 10 higher AC (from wisdom bonus & tumble)

That's not quite true because monks get wisdom modifier to AC instead of the Shield/armor ( that means if wearing armor or using a shield on a monk than you loose, monk speed/ attacks per round if using kama/unarmed and wisdom modifier AC)

That's why a lot of the players think that monks are owerpowered because they think the same way you do Zog.

Pally Shield has +3 natural AC +6 Shield Modifier AC which comes to +9Shield Modifier AC total.
Monk with 18 wisdom +12 from drinking wisdom potions comes to 30 wisdom which is 10 modifier which equals to 10AC.

Now, its 1 more AC, but you sacrifice a shield with any enchantments it has. That includes elemental resistances as you can add it to a shield. In case of either Rusty or Pally set shield thats a lot of goodies.

EDIT:
Here's a quote from nwn.wikia.com to back my word up as im pretty sure i would be criticized:)

Quote:

Monk AC bonus
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Monk AC bonus

Type of feat: class
Prerequisite: monk 1

Specifics: Monks add their wisdom modifier to their armor class.

Use: automatic
edit Notes

* Monks do not lose this AC bonus when they become flat-footed.
* Monks do lose this AC bonus when wearing armor or using a shield.

In conclusion it would mean that if you take a monk you would just go for imp evasion, thumble, and cleave which isn't bad at all, but taking bard lvl you would have better option of skills like taunt. If not, take rogue for UMD (scrolls) and evasion.

Zog2 · Posts: 68 Join date: 2008-09-08 Age: 44 Location: Vic, Oz

Yes -- I'd seen that in the Wiki too ...but was sure I'd tried it sometime and found that the wisdom modifier still adds to AC.

But you're right -- what I'd tried is a monk wielding a weapon that wasn't a kama or unarmed, but still wearing a robe & no shield. When the class level restrictions came onto KT, I'd thought of changing my dex based fighter10/rogue2/WM28 to fighter10/monk2/WM28, as UMD was of no real use any more, and that 2 monk on a rapier wielding dexer would have been good for AC (wisdom), cleave, evasion & deflect arrows

So yes -- in this case the only AC bonus you'd get would be from Tumble

...and Paladins get Taunt as a class skill too

Warchief · Posts: 84 Join date: 2009-02-09

It sounds like a good idea but if you take a good look at the pally set (at least in the old mod, not sure about the far east) the set is usable by both paladins and Chapion of Torms and the Sword of the Spirit is also the same way.